Electrocution? Something to note > for everyone Believe it or not department?

[Jon]

Summer is on the way. Believe it or not, more people get electrocuted at
this time of year.
Makes good sense to read this item.

Read a while ago that wet skin, salt water can cause some people to be
electrocuted using less than ten volts.
A navy person was electrocuted when using a multimeter while he was
impregnated with salt water.
Cant find the article at the moment.

Below is what you may experience at different electricity levels.
Obviously, a person's weight can greatly variate the reaction. This table
can be found at theelectricchair.com
Less than 1mA: Barely perceptible
1 to 8 mA: strong surprise
8 to 15mA: unpleasant, victim able to detach
Greater than 15mA: muscular freeze, victim cannot let go
Greater than 75mA: usually fatal

More stuff

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=101084&node_id=736670

 

[Mike Harding]

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=101084&node_id=736670

The word "a heap of old crap" spring to mind.

Mike Harding

 

[Rod Speed]

Summer is on the way. Believe it or not, more
people get electrocuted at this time of year.

Makes good sense to read this item.

Nope, makes more sense to get some
darwinian selection back into the process.

Read a while ago that wet skin, salt water can cause
some people to be electrocuted using less than ten volts.

Bullshit. Doesnt happen in real life.

A navy person was electrocuted when using a
multimeter while he was impregnated with salt water.

Dont believe it.

Cant find the article at the moment.

Wota surprise.

Below is what you may experience at different electricity levels.
Obviously, a person's weight can greatly variate the reaction. This table
can be found at theelectricchair.com
Less than 1mA: Barely perceptible
1 to 8 mA: strong surprise
8 to 15mA: unpleasant, victim able to detach
Greater than 15mA: muscular freeze, victim cannot let go
Greater than 75mA: usually fatal

Great, wont be able to breed.

 

[AWS]

He got excited and pierced his BOTH his thumbs, how was he holding the both Leads so that each one stuck in each thumb?
Crap.!!!

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

It's true.

Dont believe it. Bet its just another net myth.

Was using a 9V multimeter (Simpson 260) and, in his excitement,
the guy pierced his thumbs with the tip of the probes.

You cant get anything like the 75ma thats necessary for a fatality
that way with a 9V battery and I dont believe he managed to pierce
BOTH thumbs with the tips of the probes 'in his excitement' either.

Skin has good resistance, but soft tissue and muscle doesn't
and once it reached the blood (which is salty and thus conductive)
- 80mA across the heart resulted in one dead sailor.

Soorree, not even possible. And completely trivial for
anyone to try it and prove its complete and utter bullshit.

And if such an utterly bizarre combination of events had actually
happened, resulting in death, it would be trivial to find references to it.

It doesnt exist.

Funny that.

Or rather pathetic, actually.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

It's true.

Dont believe it. Bet its just another net myth.

Was using a 9V multimeter (Simpson 260) and, in his excitement,
the guy pierced his thumbs with the tip of the probes.

You cant get anything like the 75ma thats necessary for a fatality
that way with a 9V battery and I dont believe he managed to pierce
BOTH thumbs with the tips of the probes 'in his excitement' either.

Skin has good resistance, but soft tissue and muscle doesn't
and once it reached the blood (which is salty and thus conductive)
- 80mA across the heart resulted in one dead sailor.

Soorree, not even possible. And completely trivial for
anyone to try it and prove its complete and utter bullshit.

And if such an utterly bizarre combination of events had actually
happened, resulting in death, it would be trivial to find references to it.

It doesnt exist.

Funny that.

Or rather pathetic, actually.

Pity about
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/05/30/1524222.shtml?tid=137

 

[Rheilly Phoull]

Yey yeh, 120 ohms hand to hand, I'd like to see that !! and also from a
multimeter !!

 

[Fred]

Summer is on the way. Believe it or not, more people get electrocuted at
this time of year.
Makes good sense to read this item.

Read a while ago that wet skin, salt water can cause some people to be
electrocuted using less than ten volts.
A navy person was electrocuted when using a multimeter while he was
impregnated with salt water.
Cant find the article at the moment.

Maybe it was this one.
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-50.html

 

[Jon]

Yep It was the Darwin awards site. May be true/maybe not. A freaky problem

Mike has a resuscitation suggestion:
"The story doesn't say it stopped his heart, it says it disrupted his heart.
A defibulator would have saved him."

Mike is quite correct. This sailor apparently did this alone in the lab, and
spent a few minutes in ventricular fibrillation. A defibrillator might have
saved his life had someone been there to use it -- or to stop the guy from
attempting to measure his internal resistance.

 

[KLR]

Summer is on the way. Believe it or not, more people get electrocuted at
this time of year.
Makes good sense to read this item.

Read a while ago that wet skin, salt water can cause some people to be
electrocuted using less than ten volts.
A navy person was electrocuted when using a multimeter while he was
impregnated with salt water.
Cant find the article at the moment.

Below is what you may experience at different electricity levels.
Obviously, a person's weight can greatly variate the reaction. This table
can be found at theelectricchair.com
Less than 1mA: Barely perceptible
1 to 8 mA: strong surprise
8 to 15mA: unpleasant, victim able to detach
Greater than 15mA: muscular freeze, victim cannot let go
Greater than 75mA: usually fatal

More stuff

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=101084&node_id=736670

sorry - but that is clearly bullshit, unless its some very strange
multimeter that puts out a rather high voltage.

 

[KLR]

It's true. Was using a 9V multimeter (Simpson 260) and, in his excitement,
the guy pierced his thumbs with the tip of the probes. Skin has good
resistance, but soft tissue and muscle doesn't and once it reached the
blood (which is salty and thus conductive) - 80mA across the heart resulted
in one dead sailor.


Cheers,
Jason

Im sorry but I find this very very hard to believe

I cant see that much current flowing in such a setup either

 

[The real Andy]

sorry - but that is clearly bullshit, unless its some very strange
multimeter that puts out a rather high voltage.

Perhaps it was one of those multimeters that measure insulation resistance,
the ones most people call meggers. It could have been some confusion by some
idiot who wrote the article. I would probably tend to think it is actually
bullshit.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

What a spoilsport. What about all those motor mechanics and
auto electricians that get electrocuted every day? A ring spanner
on a live +12V terminal in a sweaty or bleeding hand, and the other
arm draped around the engine block. They're dropping like flies, surely?

Yep, thats the reason for those rather smelly
piles on the engines of so many cars today.

The feet sticking out of the front of the bonnet should
be a dead giveaway, but hardly anyone notices those.

 

[Rod Speed]

They cant be dead. Theyre still accepting money.

Thats just automated banking, silly.

Thought heir work ethics are dead in many cases.

You into necrophilia ?

 

[Mainlander]

Im sorry but I find this very very hard to believe

I cant see that much current flowing in such a setup either

Some guy gave me some tosh about a guy killing himself by putting a 216
battery across his tongue, like you do

I don't believe it

 

[Mainlander]

Perhaps it was one of those multimeters that measure insulation resistance,
the ones most people call meggers.

They put out 500 or 1000 volts, but little current

 

[bemw]

Not possible, unless he pierced his heart with the probes and then BLED TO
DEATH!

 

[Terry Collins]

....snip.....

Read a while ago that wet skin, salt water can cause some people to be
electrocuted using less than ten volts.
A navy person was electrocuted when using a multimeter while he was
impregnated with salt water.

Right, so explain how they can do underwater welding (at sea). Used to
be stick, now mig. They claim the effective work life of an underwater
welder is about 5 years. There after they are advised to generally give
it up because currents through the body have affected the heart. But,
they don't die the first time.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

...snip.....


Right, so explain how they can do underwater welding (at sea). Used to
be stick, now mig. They claim the effective work life of an underwater
welder is about 5 years. There after they are advised to generally give
it up because currents through the body have affected the heart. But,
they don't die the first time.

Gee, and all that time I thought the reason they only had an effective
working life of 5 years was related to the repeated
compression/decompression cycles their bodies have to go through.

Mark
(Also thinking these divers work mainly on deep sea oil rigs)

 

[Terry Collins]

Gee, and all that time I thought the reason they only had an effective
working life of 5 years was related to the repeated
compression/decompression cycles their bodies have to go through.

You could be right on that. My information came from a welding teacher,
who whilst experienced as a welder/boiler maker, wasn't a diver.



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