Cheap Peltier air conditioner?

[Rod Speed]

Some clown desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate

It would be nice if the smart folk, like you would extend those brains
to being smart enough to trim the irrelevant parts of your reply away.

None of it was irrelevant, fuckwit.

DUH!

You the village eejut, fuckwit ?

You put down one idiot's remarks, replying to one sentence,

Even you should be able to count the number replied to, fuckwit.

yet your stupid ass STILL quoted the entire tripe post.

I dont actually have a donkey, smart or stupid, fuckwit.

And if I did, I certainly wouldnt let it use my PC.

You need to get more clues than those you have chosen to embrace, boy.

Heard the one about your head and a dead bear's arse, child ?

 

[Rod Speed]

With somebody offering to make a prototype ...

Who also doesnt have a clue about the basic physics either.

Plenty make 'prototypes' of perpetual motion machines all the time.

 

[Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA]

[email protected] says...

Who also doesnt have a clue about the basic physics either.

Plenty make 'prototypes' of perpetual motion machines all the time.

Now now...

Nobody who knows the physics involved says that you can't make a
prototype peltier air conditioner. You could, for example, replace
some walls with banks of cpu peltiers, arrange for your local power
company to supply a gazillion ampere feed to run them, then buy
and tear down the houses on both sides to give a buffer big enough
so that the exterior/hot side doesn't burn the paint off, and then
go deaf from the sound of thousands and thousands of little fans...

Don't confuse the impossible with the stupid.

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

Now wait a sec... I didn't say I would build
the proto type using MY money... but if he wants
one could have it up and running in a couple weeks...

**And that my learned friends is pure ,unadulterated capitalism at
work!!!!
Brian Goldsmith.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

Now wait a sec... I didn't say I would build
the proto type using MY money...

**Of course. I wasn't talking about your money.

but if he wants

one could have it up and running in a couple weeks...

**Sure. I'll take his money too. I've been mucking about with Peltiers for
the best part of 20 years. Nothing much has changed, either. They're neat,
but they'll never make an air conditioner obsolete.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed [email protected] wrote

Or is a scammer happy to pump a sucker's pockets.

Now now...

Nobody who knows the physics involved says that
you can't make a prototype peltier air conditioner.

No one ever said you cant. Whether it makes
any sense at all 'to make a prototype' tho.

Anyone with a clue about the basic physics would realise that its
never gunna be a viable product, just because of the running cost.

Don't confuse the impossible with the stupid.

You're the pathetically confused, stupid.

 

[DarkMatter]

Some clown desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate



None of it was irrelevant, fuckwit.

Bullshit! The remark which you replied directly to was ALL that was
required, you usenet total retard.

You the village eejut, fuckwit ?

No... YOU ARE! Bwahahahahaha... You are a usenet clueless ****.

Even you should be able to count the number replied to, fuckwit.

You are the retarded boy here, boy.

I dont actually have a donkey, smart or stupid, fuckwit.

No, YOU ARE A DONKEY, boy.

And if I did, I certainly wouldnt let it use my PC.

Then you'd better go back out in the yard, and tie yourself back up.

Heard the one about your head and a dead bear's arse, child ?

I got nine inches of "child" for yer lame ass, little girl.

You are still clueless as you did not get the meaning of the post...
at all. I din't expect a usenet retard like you to get it though.

You are so full of yourself that you feel that you are incapable of
err. Too late, dipshit.

 

[Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA]

[email protected] says...

Or is a scammer happy to pump a sucker's pockets.




No one ever said you cant. Whether it makes
any sense at all 'to make a prototype' tho.

Anyone with a clue about the basic physics would realise that its
never gunna be a viable product, just because of the running cost.


You're the pathetically confused, stupid.

I can tell the difference between a perpetual motion machine
(impossible) and a peltier air conditioner (possible but stupid),
and I can tell that "stupid" and "never gunna be a viable product"
are roughly equivalent (which means that I can read, unlike you),
so it's pretty clear who is "pathetically confused" here.

Feel free to pick up your clue at the door on the way out.
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time. Bye Bye!

 

[Douglas Eagleson]

Domestic fan heaters are cheap but air conditioners are a lot more
expensive.

There seem to be lots of cheap Peltier cooling devices coming to the market.
I was wondering whether a fan could be combined with a Peltier device to
make a cheap air conditioner.

http://www.ferrotec-america.com/pel.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/homework/s95611.htm

gtoomey

My old car's airconditioner is broken and the fan on the dash
does not work all the time. I was supposed to mount a Peltier
decive to the cars metal roof and blow the fan's air across
the inside plate to my face.

Except the car is so old I am supposed to fix the nicer one
and get rid of it. So five years later the same situation
exists. I really just need to play with the device and see how
nice a cool air it would make.

A device mounted to the window would also work. just
make a gooy paste connection of the device to the glass
and have a large thin metal flange covering the hot spot
on the window.

So the cold inside device plate is ready to cool.

Cheap spot air conditioning.

Douglas Eagleson
Gaithersburg, MD USA

 

[DarkMatter]

My old car's airconditioner is broken and the fan on the dash
does not work all the time. I was supposed to mount a Peltier
decive to the cars metal roof and blow the fan's air across
the inside plate to my face.

Except the car is so old I am supposed to fix the nicer one
and get rid of it. So five years later the same situation
exists. I really just need to play with the device and see how
nice a cool air it would make.

A device mounted to the window would also work. just
make a gooy paste connection of the device to the glass
and have a large thin metal flange covering the hot spot
on the window.

So the cold inside device plate is ready to cool.

Cheap spot air conditioning.

Me thinks yer an idiot. Blowing a breeze over a flat plate is about
as efficient as your "cheap" remark is true. Near nil. You need a
heat sink on the cold side to conduct heat out of the air which you
are passing over the fins. A flat plate is...well...retarded.

As far as it being "cheap" , it is not. It is a very INEFFICIENT
(you do understand that word, don't you) heat conversion device.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed [email protected] wrote

I can tell the difference between a perpetual motion machine
(impossible) and a peltier air conditioner (possible but stupid),

But cant manage to comprehend that I never ever said anything
about a peltier based airconditioner not being possible. I just
pointed out that someone offering 'to make a prototype' proves
sweet **** all about the viability of what is prototyped.

Reams of your pathetic attempts to bullshit your way
out of your predicament flushed where they belong.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some clown desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate

Bullshit!

Yep, you're full of that. Very appropriate indeed considering
that pathetic excuse for a nick you desperately cower behind

The remark which you replied directly to was ALL that was required,

You get no say what so ever on what is or is not required. Ever.

Reams of your desperate attempts at insults any 3 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

Anyone know what's happening with thermal diodes?

Never heard of them. But, then again, if you read a description for a
Peltier device you will see it described as 'a series of PN
junctions'. So, just maybe, a thermal diode is a Peltier device by
another name.

Mark

 

[DarkMatter]

Yep, you're full of that.

You are so full of shit, your eyes are brown, and there is a stench
emanating from your ears.

Very appropriate indeed considering
that pathetic excuse for a nick you desperately cower behind

Look, retard boy... usenet is an anonymous place. Specifically to
remain AWAY from retarded twits like you.

I cower behind nothing, desperately or otherwise.

I do know how to properly post in usenet, however, unlike your lame,
wussified ass.

 

[DarkMatter]

You get no say what so ever on what is or is not required. Ever.

Wrong. Fact is, you cannot admit that you don't trim shit and are
too fucking lazy to do so.

Reams of your desperate attempts at insults any 3 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.

My insults are well placed if you are too fucking wussified to take
the statement for what it was worth, and you are.

You didn't need to quote the whole fucking thing, DIPSHIT.

What part of that is so hard for you to admit? ALL of it, because
you are a fucking retard as it relates to usenet.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some clown desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
DarkBrownMatter <[email protected]>
wrote in message just the puerile shit any 3 year old could leave for dead.

 

[Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA]

[email protected] says...

But cant manage to comprehend that I never ever said anything
about a peltier based airconditioner not being possible. I just
pointed out that someone offering 'to make a prototype' proves
sweet **** all about the viability of what is prototyped.

Then you should have said that. The bare mention of a perpetual
motion machine juxtaposed with a peltier air conditioner and a
comment about being ignorant obout physics gave the impression
that you considered them to be of the same class.

Reams of your pathetic attempts to bullshit your way
out of your predicament flushed where they belong.

Don't blame me for your inability to express yourself clearly on
the first try. Perhaps if you spent more time on writing clearly
and less time on pitiful attempts at insults this would be less
of a problem for you.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed [email protected] wrote

Then you should have said that.

Wrong. As always. If everything was always analy worded so some
fool like you wouldnt jump to completely erroneous conclusions when
reading it, posts would be FAR too boring to be worth reading.

The bare mention of a perpetual motion machine
juxtaposed with a peltier air conditioner and a comment
about being ignorant obout physics gave the impression
that you considered them to be of the same class.

Only fools stupid enough to jump to completely unwarranted 'conclusions'

Reams of your pathetic attempts to bullshit your way
out of your predicament flushed where they belong.

 

[Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA]

[email protected] says...

Reams of your pathetic attempts to bullshit your way
out of your predicament flushed where they belong.

You are repeating yourself. Don't you think that your loyal
fans deserve fresh material? Your flames should be entertaining,
not dull and boring.

 

[Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA]

[email protected] says...

I state for the record that I can build a working prototype
peltier based room AC unit for about $2,000 (Depends
on timing and prices of components at time of build)....

At no point did I ever say it was a viable alternative to
standard AC units in a marketing since....

I will even offer to build a perpetual motion ( over unity)
device to anyone's specifications for a price....

I will not assure anyone that it will work as they B'leave
it will....

Ain't capitalism grand !

Aaaah... Someone who makes sense. It's like a breath of fresh
air after Rod's pitiful attempts at constructing a flame. Thanks!

If you have already done the calculations, efficiency, power
requirements and differential hot/cold side temperatures would
be interesting. Don't go to any extra work though.