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Brian O

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Everyone,
I hope this is the correct place to post this. I have an old PC2530
alarm system that was monitored by ADT. I discontinued my service to them,
but now that I want to start service with someone else, they tell me I need
the lockout code that ADT programmed into my alarm so they can program the
alarm. Of course ADT isn't giving this out. Is there a way to circumvent
this lockout code? I have a degree in electronic technology so doing
something to the circuit (grounding reset to the EPROM etc) to be able to
program it is not a problem. Problem lies in that I don't know how bypass
this lockout code or how to program it if I DO get it bypassed. I'm pretty
new to the ins and outs of alarm system other than the basics so any help
would be appreciated. Thanks.
B.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Brian O said:
Hi Everyone,
I hope this is the correct place to post this. I have an old PC2530
alarm system that was monitored by ADT. I discontinued my service to them,
but now that I want to start service with someone else, they tell me I
need
the lockout code that ADT programmed into my alarm so they can program the
alarm. Of course ADT isn't giving this out. Is there a way to circumvent
this lockout code? I have a degree in electronic technology so doing
something to the circuit (grounding reset to the EPROM etc) to be able to
program it is not a problem. Problem lies in that I don't know how bypass
this lockout code or how to program it if I DO get it bypassed. I'm pretty
new to the ins and outs of alarm system other than the basics so any help
would be appreciated. Thanks.
B.


ADT should be able to call in to your system and default the installer code
*without* sending someone out there. Failing that, you can always send the
board to Jim Rojas at http://www.tech-man.com and he'll unlock it for you.
In the latter instance, you'll be without an alarm sytsem for a few days...
 
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R.H.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Have you actually asked ADT for assistance in this regard ? The installer
code and lockout code are two different things. It is normal for any company
to change the installer code, and this code will go back to factory
installer code for your model panel once defaulted. However, if the board is
locked, it won't default back to factory specs and is essentially worthless.
Jim Rojas on this newsgroup can assist you in this regard in unlocking your
board.

As much as I dislike ADT and all of their practices, it is my experience
that they don't normally lock boards. So a call to them may be all you need
to get the panel installer code reset.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com
 
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Brian O

Jan 1, 1970
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R.H.Campbell said:
Have you actually asked ADT for assistance in this regard ? The installer
code and lockout code are two different things. It is normal for any company
to change the installer code, and this code will go back to factory
installer code for your model panel once defaulted. However, if the board is
locked, it won't default back to factory specs and is essentially worthless.
Jim Rojas on this newsgroup can assist you in this regard in unlocking your
board.

As much as I dislike ADT and all of their practices, it is my experience
that they don't normally lock boards. So a call to them may be all you need
to get the panel installer code reset.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com
Thank you very much guys. I called ADT and they didn't mention that the code
could be reset remotely. I'm not surprised. Ill call them tomorrow and let
them know that I'm aware if this now. I appreciate all your help. And as
for Mr. Rojas, if ADT wont help, he will probably be getting my business. :)
B
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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R.H.Campbell said:
Have you actually asked ADT for assistance in this regard ? The installer
code and lockout code are two different things. It is normal for any
company to change the installer code, and this code will go back to
factory installer code for your model panel once defaulted. However, if
the board is locked, it won't default back to factory specs and is
essentially worthless. Jim Rojas on this newsgroup can assist you in this
regard in unlocking your board.

As much as I dislike ADT and all of their practices, it is my experience
that they don't normally lock boards. So a call to them may be all you
need to get the panel installer code reset.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com


Your experiences with ADT aren't mine. In fact they're about 180 degrees
around... ADT has never failed to default the installer code on a system
the customer has purchased (or has bought out at the end of the contract
term). We weren't dealers for them but they have on a number of occasions
used our services when it comes to hooking up fire alarm panels for
monitoring. This often necessitates being able to program their panels and
download them on occasion.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Thank you very much guys. I called ADT and they didn't mention that the
code
could be reset remotely. I'm not surprised. Ill call them tomorrow and let
them know that I'm aware if this now. I appreciate all your help. And as
for Mr. Rojas, if ADT wont help, he will probably be getting my business.
:)
B


Remind them that the system and components are now yours to do with as you
please. The should be able to default the installer code with no
difficulty.
 
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R.H.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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No , my experiences reflect your own somewhat. I have yet to come up against
a board that has been locked by ADT for any reason. In all the many
takeovers I do, none of the boards have been locked. As far as whether ADT
will dial in and change the installer code, I have no knowledge of whether
they will or won't.

By the time the customer comes to me, he has no desire to even talk to them
anymore....

RHC
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Brian O said:
Hi Everyone,
I hope this is the correct place to post this. I have an old PC2530
alarm system that was monitored by ADT. I discontinued my service to them,
but now that I want to start service with someone else, they tell me I need
the lockout code that ADT programmed into my alarm so they can program the
alarm. Of course ADT isn't giving this out. Is there a way to circumvent
this lockout code? I have a degree in electronic technology so doing
something to the circuit (grounding reset to the EPROM etc) to be able to
program it is not a problem. Problem lies in that I don't know how bypass
this lockout code or how to program it if I DO get it bypassed. I'm pretty
new to the ins and outs of alarm system other than the basics so any help
would be appreciated. Thanks.
B.

That panel can't be locked out, default and reprogram it, should take maybe
5 minutes tops

Or you could let Bass try downloading it <snicker>
 
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Crash Gordon®

Jan 1, 1970
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I've gotten them to unlock panels too, but it takes a long time to get them to understand what you want done (what the client wants done)..and usually its several trips for me because they tell the client it IS done and it is still locked when I get there.

However...it has been my experience that most of ADT's panels are NOT locked.
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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R.H.Campbell said:
Have you actually asked ADT for assistance in this regard ? The installer
code and lockout code are two different things. It is normal for any company
to change the installer code, and this code will go back to factory
installer code for your model panel once defaulted. However, if the board is
locked, it won't default back to factory specs and is essentially worthless.
Jim Rojas on this newsgroup can assist you in this regard in unlocking your
board.

As much as I dislike ADT and all of their practices, it is my experience
that they don't normally lock boards. So a call to them may be all you need
to get the panel installer code reset.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com

Can't lock a PC2530 R.H
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Brian O said:
Thank you very much guys. I called ADT and they didn't mention that the code
could be reset remotely. I'm not surprised. Ill call them tomorrow and let
them know that I'm aware if this now. I appreciate all your help. And as
for Mr. Rojas, if ADT wont help, he will probably be getting my business. :)
B

Neither ADT or anyone on earth can remotely reset that panel, it's not
downloadable
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark Leuck said:
Neither ADT or anyone on earth can remotely reset that panel, it's not
downloadable


All of DSC's 2500 series panels are downloadable.
 
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R.H.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Oops ! I was assuming a typo...that he had a PC 2550 by DSC. Guess this
gentleman will have to bite the bullet and hardware default the unit and
start fresh (you can do that can't you Mark with this device..)

Who makes the PC2530 anyway ?

RHC
 
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Devin

Jan 1, 1970
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R.H.Campbell said:
Oops ! I was assuming a typo...that he had a PC 2550 by DSC. Guess this
gentleman will have to bite the bullet and hardware default the unit and
start fresh (you can do that can't you Mark with this device..)

Who makes the PC2530 anyway ?

RHC
SOunds like one of ADT's custom labeled 2525's. Just like there Focus
6(632). Never encountered a locked ADT panel here either.
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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R.H.Campbell said:
Oops ! I was assuming a typo...that he had a PC 2550 by DSC. Guess this
gentleman will have to bite the bullet and hardware default the unit and
start fresh (you can do that can't you Mark with this device..)

Who makes the PC2530 anyway ?

RHC

It was a PC2500 with a couple of very minor program changes made for
Emergency Networks who I worked for at one time.
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank Olson said:
All of the *Canadian* ones were... I forgot youze guys down there are
speshul...

Well we ARE all that matters after all, you guys up there should be thankful
we buy some of the stuff you guys make :)
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Well we ARE all that matters after all, you guys up there should be
thankful
we buy some of the stuff you guys make :)


Check that we *used* to make them here... I think the entire DSC line is
now manufactured out of Taiwan but I could be wrong...
 
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Brian O

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark Leuck said:
That panel can't be locked out, default and reprogram it, should take maybe
5 minutes tops

Or you could let Bass try downloading it <snicker>
How does one tell if its locked or not? And how to default it? Is that info
available?
B
 
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