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OT: Energy=Horsepower-Hours ???

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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
What legislation allows them to stop the controlled burns ?


Judges don't need "Legislation", they set "Precedents".


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Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Ours do.

Graham


I thought the royals owned all the forest in England.


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Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Nope.

Graham


Then what happened to "By hook or by crook"?


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
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Member of DAV #85.

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Central Florida
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Ian said:
Well, I can think of 2 obvious reasons:

1) Cost - have you checked out how much it would cost to:
a) buy the stove
b) replace the fireplace and have the stove fitted
c) have the chimney relined
d) provide adequate dry storage for the wood

2) They are messy

Don't get me wrong, I'm getting a quote for one tonight.
BUT they are completely unsuitable for the majority of modern houses
in the UK.
There is also the problem if they become "mainstream" of where to get
sufficient suitable wood. Note that in the US the population density is
far, far lower than in the UK.

Regards
Ian
Can't speak for any other Americans, but i have been hughly aware of the
difference in areal population density since i was 20; and that was decades
ago.
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Gasine direct injection is similar in concept.

Graham
Not at all. The location of injection is quite different (manifold
"gasoline" versus cylinder "deisel").
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Really ?

I've been told otherwise.

Graham
It is just a variety of bamboo, it should grow just fine throughout most of
the southern US (except in arid climates).
 
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joseph2k

Jan 1, 1970
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Chuck said:
TMI was proof that the safety concepts worked. Just about everything that
operators could do wrong they did do wrong, and still the release was
minimal, and there was no "China Syndrome".

US nuke still has a far better safety record than coal. The small release
of a short lifetimed isotope was far less damaging than the continual
release of mercury and sulfur compounds by coal fired plants.

-Chuck
For a real treat, check out the Thorium emmissions from an older coal plant
without all the scrubbers that are mandatory now.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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About 2% of petroleum goes into making plastic resins.. that stuff
would be VERY hard to substitute for.

Yes. If we have to go back to horses hooves and bat droppings we'll be
screwed indeed.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Usually not. You'd be mighty disappointed when you compared the overall
efficiency of the coal-to-wall-outlet process to the 70-80% or so of a
coal based heater. Plus a lot of big coal plants are run by "politically
connected" businesses so they often get away with much looser emissions
regs than the manufacturer of that little furnace.

You're comparing apples to oranges. The power at the outlet is in a
more useful form than the heat coming out of heater. However,
unfortunately, not yet easily subsituted for liquid fossil fuels for
transportation purposes.

About 2% of petroleum goes into making plastic resins.. that stuff
would be VERY hard to substitute for. Hopefully the major markets get
converted to alternative energy sources before prices get entirely out
of hand.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Jeroen Belleman

Jan 1, 1970
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MooseFET said:
The goal is to maintain
something like the natural forest environment.

That's an odd concept, that you have to 'maintain' a
forest to make it natural. Nature doesn't need humans
to maintain anything. We are very good at messing things
up though.

Jeroen Belleman
 
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Guest

Jan 1, 1970
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It is a real shame that the first exposure of atomic energy, to most people,
was the atomic bomb. If most people had their first exposure to gasoline via
the Molotov cocktail, we would be still using horses.
 
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Chuck Harris

Jan 1, 1970
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It is a real shame that the first exposure of atomic energy, to most people,
was the atomic bomb. If most people had their first exposure to gasoline via
the Molotov cocktail, we would be still using horses.

Hmm? I wonder. The early automobiles that used gasoline caught fire,
or caught other things on fire, rather frequently.

I think their adoption was a matter of expense, and convenience.

A horse costs you daily in terms of its care and feeding.. and yet most people
didn't need to hitch up the horses and go somewhere daily... hence the development
of the livery stable in small towns, where horses could be rented and shared.

The automobile cost you only when you used it. It didn't get tired
on long trips, and it moved substantially faster than a horse.

The supposed evils of carbon, relative to Global Warming, might just be the
catalyst for bringing nuke back into the fold.

After all, if something as noisy, dangerous and unreliable as the early
automobiles could win the hearts of the world... Nuke, which at last count
killed fewer people in Japan, than the automobile has killed in the US,
should be a shoe-in.

-Chuck
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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That's an odd concept, that you have to 'maintain' a
forest to make it natural. Nature doesn't need humans
to maintain anything. We are very good at messing things
up though.

Yes, it is an "old concept" and like many "old concepts" it is a very
good one. Note that I did not say that humans were "maintaining a
forest". I said the goal is to "maintain something like the
natural ...". In this context the word "maintain" does not suggest
people doing things it only means the continuation of a situation for
the long term.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
I have no idea. Do you ?


Do you even know where the term originated?


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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