Tingles from power supply

[Eeyore]

The term [dongle] is also used in the industry to describe outlet hung power
supplies, jackass.

Not in any country I know. And I know a few, unlike you I suspect.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Philips makes blue colored ceramic dip, which they use on their HV
caps, including Y caps.

Thank you for proving my point.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

You are full of shit. Maybe her experience can be associated with
poorly designed power supplies, but no power supply that is properly made
will do that.

You clearly have NO understanding of safety norms and limits. I'll start
fucking scanning the text if you're not careful to show what an IDIOT you
are.

I've been doing them for 22 yrs. I have ALWAYS been 'the company expert' on
such matters.

Buy IEC60065 or 60950 (or even UL1950). I'll bet your pockets aren't even
that deep. UL counts for NOTHING now btw.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

I'll bet that I have more here in this very room than you have in your
entire set of possessions.

I wouldn't bet on that. Besides, I know how they're designed. Something
clearly beyond your very limited 'brain' capacity.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

keep a W98SE > PC for the purpose.

How about just upgrading to a newer version of Vutrax?
Cost.


I've never used it, but their web site claims it works on XP, Vista, 64-bit
Windows... and even
Linux.

They're cheapskates. Plus it would be a poor long-term value purchase in view of
their likely file interchange requirements.

They're just importing the netlist into PADS though, right? So only one
re-drawing? (What you did in ORCAD schematics to Vutrax schematics.)

It's still poor, although I wouldn't really recommend anyway adopts ORCAD at
this point -- it's a pretty unimpressive piece of software for the price.

Orcad isn't what it once was. Indeed it's dead now sadly but I still have DOS and
Windows versions.

I think you overestimate the ability of certain participants when using the word
'netlist'.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

from the UK called Vutrax. They even use it for mech drgs because you can ( it was > designed as a sort of
all in one package ).
controls access to the I/O. Their only resort was to keep a W98SE PC for the purpose.

FYI they should be able to supply a non-dongled version.

For MONEY, no doubt.

the world but hey-ho ! As a result some products have ended up being drafted in no less than > THREE
packages. I've originated in Orcad for example. They complete the schematic design in > Vutrax and the
sub-contractor who was doing layout used PADS !

You mean there is such a thing as a *compatible* PCB CAD format?

Wasn't EDIF meant to be such a thing ? Never seemed to take off AFAICS.


Graham

 

[Sylvia Else]

At least it is a very apt descriptive term which only applies to those
plug packs whereas I have never heard any one in the world other than
one ng poster call them dongles

I agree that dongle is not the appropriate term, and I also have never
heard a plug pack, wall mart, whatever, referred to a dongle.

Well, except in this thread, of course, by the person who did.

Sylvia.

 

[Eeyore]

Though in truth, I'd never heard the expression before I read it in this
group (in another thread). May be it's a US term. I note that the WIKI
says it's slang.

It is 'slang' but is a near perfect description.

I assume you're confirming that's what you had ?

Could be my protected up-bringing, though. Perhaps Phil has something to
say on this subject, since he's in Aus' too.

Phil will understand ( all the aspects you mention I expect ).

Graham

 

[Sylvia Else]

Actually, it was the fact that it was the French that were doing it
that led to significant problems. Even their 'big bird' sucks so bad
that it sucks at sucking. Nearly as bad as you do.

It seems to be flying, even if it has a few teething troubles (which is
to be expected). How many airliners have you built recently?

Sylvia.

 

[Eeyore]

the world but hey-ho ! As a result some products have ended up being drafted in no less than > THREE
packages.

They should talk to Airbus about how that can lead to $billion delays in
a project. (A380 - incompatible versions of a CAD system lead to
significant wiring problems).

Oh yes. I forget the name of the package now ( It's easy enough to Google or whatever ) but that really
messed things up for the A380. The wiring looms weren't 'quite' right. Plus there were delays ( less well
known ) on account of every aircraft being internally styled to suit the client.

The really good news is that Airbus 'promised' their launch customer, Singapore Airlines, a 15% cost
reduction per seat over a 747-400 despite the massive extra space.

It turns out that in revenue service the saving is more like 20% and Singapore are ecstatic.

That plane will sell well. I doubt Boeing will sell many 747-8s ( except for relevant routes ).

I could tell you a few things about Airbus and how a friend of mine helped make their first aircraft, the
A300 have such an efficient wing ( always an Airbus trait ).

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Where do you want to meet here in socal, you retarded little pussified
bastard?

I think he just made his point rather well.

Who would want to meet YOU anyway ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

I reckon whomsoever allowed a capacitor/resistor/whatever to straddle
a magnetically isolated, electrical safety barrier, ought to be
marched out of their keep-the-public-safe-committee office and shot.

I could be tempted to agree.

Needless to say there's a reason for the method which as I said you'll find in the
EXCELLLENT app notes at powerint.com. It surprised me too.

The transformer would have coupling capacitance anyway.

This one's a real little runner. It can make life very much more complicated.

BTW, try connecting a modern printer to your PC at night with low illumination.
Look out for the sparks.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

More absolute bullshit statistics.

It is VERY usual for Y caps to be blue. Not invariable but I'd say
around 90%+ are so.

YOU got some better figures ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

True, Sylvia, but GPOs (general power outlets) are often wired wrongly, both
by do it yourself illegal wirers (encouraged by SC alas) *and* licenced
electricians (proves one of SC's arguments!)

100% irrelevant to the issue.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Yes, a very common US term.

And UK too. I despise the things but that's another matter.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Ceramic caps do NOT "belt" when 'charged' off of a random point in an AC
power line sine wave.

She is an idiot, as are you.

YOU are an idiot. You clearly don't understand the term applies to YOU, not
the people here who have explained EXACTLY what is going on.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

You're an idiot.

You've clearly never read a single official safety document.

I actually have physical copies here.


Graham

 

[Eeyore]

It has a dongle power supply, idiot.

NO SUCH THING EXISTS.

GROW UP ! Hah that would be a challenge for you.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

You are even more retarded than the donkey retard, and shit like that
should get dopes like you filtered, not me for pointing out dopes like
you and the retarded donkey.

How deep do you want to dig ?

 

[Eeyore]

All there are retarded

No question about it.

Graham