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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

1st prize : a bag of 200 small pnp transistors.
2nd prize : a bag of 100 small pnp transistors.
3rd prize : a bag of 50 small pnp transistors.
 
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Stefan Heinzmann

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

1st prize : a bag of 200 small pnp transistors.
2nd prize : a bag of 100 small pnp transistors.
3rd prize : a bag of 50 small pnp transistors.

A racing circuit.
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

1st prize : a bag of 200 small pnp transistors.
2nd prize : a bag of 100 small pnp transistors.
3rd prize : a bag of 50 small pnp transistors.

A surreal circuit.
 
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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

A motor-racing circuit?
 
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Boris Mohar

Jan 1, 1970
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What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

1st prize : a bag of 200 small pnp transistors.
2nd prize : a bag of 100 small pnp transistors.
3rd prize : a bag of 50 small pnp transistors.

One that has no power or signal applied to it. Don't ask me how I know ;)




Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/

void _-void-_ in the obvious place
 
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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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Boris Mohar said:
One that has no power or signal applied to it. Don't ask me how I know
;)

ROFL! At least that's a valid answer. To the others: it's not
a word game. Keep up the good work!
 
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Goran Larsson

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank Bemelman said:
What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

Several circuit inside the same oscilloscope, e.g. trying to
look at the vertical amplifier results in an feedback induced
oscillation.
 
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Bert Hickman

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

1st prize : a bag of 200 small pnp transistors.
2nd prize : a bag of 100 small pnp transistors.
3rd prize : a bag of 50 small pnp transistors.
A magnetic or dielectric circuit?

-- Bert --
--
 
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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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Goran Larsson said:
Several circuit inside the same oscilloscope, e.g. trying to
look at the vertical amplifier results in an feedback induced
oscillation.

BINGO! I thought it would take longer for someone to
come up with this answer. Congratulations!
 
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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank Bemelman said:
What *real* circuit can't be measured with an oscilloscope ?

1st prize : a bag of 200 small pnp transistors.
2nd prize : a bag of 100 small pnp transistors.
3rd prize : a bag of 50 small pnp transistors.

The winners are:

1st prize: Goran Larsson
2nd prize: Boris Mohar
3rd prize: Stefan Heinzmann

The poodle prize goes to Fred.

All are congratulated and the unlucky contestants
are also thanked for their contribution.

Winners can collect their prizes by emailing their
address, watch the 'x' and 'invalid' in the reply address,
these have to be removed. Prizes will be shipped ASAP,
priority airmail and can be expected within 5-6 days.
All information is kept highly confidential.
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
BINGO! I thought it would take longer for someone to
come up with this answer. Congratulations!

That may make sense to you foreign people but the "an" modifier of
oscilloscope makes this a disappointing answer. To make this a coherent
question in English you would ask: What real circuit can an oscilloscope
not measure. This narrows it to a specific individual instrument as
opposed to a class of instrumentation implied by your phraseology.
 
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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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Fred Bloggs said:
That may make sense to you foreign people but the "an" modifier of
oscilloscope makes this a disappointing answer. To make this a coherent
question in English you would ask: What real circuit can an oscilloscope
not measure. This narrows it to a specific individual instrument as
opposed to a class of instrumentation implied by your phraseology.

Never said it was going to be easy, hahaha. BTW, all oscilloscopes
suffer the same problem, hahaha. What a joke. Don't worry, I'm
the greatest looser here, I have to start couting all those
transistors, hahaha.
 
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Tom Del Rosso

Jan 1, 1970
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In Frank Bemelman typed:
BINGO! I thought it would take longer for someone to
come up with this answer. Congratulations!

Well, my scope service manual says to use a separate scope!

And, how do you judge 2nd and 3rd place?
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
Never said it was going to be easy, hahaha. BTW, all oscilloscopes
suffer the same problem, hahaha. What a joke. Don't worry, I'm
the greatest looser here, I have to start couting all those
transistors, hahaha.

Right - because an oscilloscope can be used to measure a real circuit in
another oscilloscope. The answer is a sur-real circuit- and this is not
a play on words- a surreal circuit is one designed by an individual with
only an impression of electronics design.
 
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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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Fred Bloggs said:
Right - because an oscilloscope can be used to measure a real circuit in
another oscilloscope. The answer is a sur-real circuit- and this is not
a play on words- a surreal circuit is one designed by an individual with
only an impression of electronics design.

I see what you mean. I'm glad the Jury decided to give you the
poodle prize. You can collect your prize as per given instructions ;)

Cheer up, you can't win 'm all - in particular with an incompetent
jury ;)
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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BINGO! I thought it would take longer for someone to
come up with this answer. Congratulations!


I don't understand this. If I take a scope probe and hook it to, say,
a vertical deflection plate of the same oscilloscope, doesn't the
probe accurately reflect the true signal on the deflection plate at
that instant?

John
 
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Guy Macon

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank Bemelman said:
BINGO! I thought it would take longer for someone to
come up with this answer. Congratulations!

That doesn't seem to fit your problem as stated. A second
oscilloscope is still "an oscilloscope." You might even be
able to measure the vertical amplifier of one channel with
the other channel with a single dual channel scope.
 
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Frank Bemelman

Jan 1, 1970
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John Larkin said:
I don't understand this. If I take a scope probe and hook it to, say,
a vertical deflection plate of the same oscilloscope, doesn't the
probe accurately reflect the true signal on the deflection plate at
that instant?

Hmm. But what if the calibration manual says, adjust Pxxx for yyy volt?
 
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