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kony

Jan 1, 1970
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Not at all. If you work in electronics, it has a very specific
meaning.

yes, and it's not what you think it means.

DISCRETE component is the applicable term in electronics.
"Subsystem" sometimes, to diffentiate between groups of
discretes that are function specific vs. the whole product,
but merely stating "component" is not suggestive of a
discrete component until you have built the context
previously which was not the case in several computer
hardware groups.


We were talking about hard drives here. Get a clue.

Yes, a hard drive is a component in a PC, of HARDWARE, etc,
etc. I didn't call it a component though, I called it a
part, and if you're too clueless to accept it, that's your
problem.

You are wrong.


Not generic at all, dipshit. In fact, the term has a quite specific
meaning in the industry, before dopes like you started generisizing
everything.

It has a specific GENERIC meaning. It does not define the
testing parameters which vary per device.
Wrong again. ENTIRE rooms are utilized at elevated temperatures,
not just some "oven". Hence the term "burn-in lab".

Depends on what's being tested, I mean the part. Oops,
you're too anal to know what a "part" is, so I'll make this
one concession and write "whole product".
 
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Mike Tomlinson

Jan 1, 1970
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Phat Bytestard said:
Flawed, fucked up logic. They have already been thoroughly tested
as long as one sticks with a reputable manufacturer.

They may have been (though I have my doubts), but that doesn't take
account of any damage that may have occurred while the drive makes its
way from China, through the channel to the end-user. That's why a wise
user will burn the drive in again himself if he wants to make sure it's
okay.
 
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Osiris

Jan 1, 1970
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Wrong, as always.


So you are educated by Wikipedia !
read this from Wiki (your URL):

"When possible, it is better to eliminate the root cause of early
failures than doing a burn in."

Yes.... remove the last wagon from the train, as it is always the one
that is most damaged in an accident.

Of course the solution is the very best, if the value-component in the
decision is limited to preventing damage, but... well... the factual
component should get some consideration too.
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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And anyone who cares about thruput, doesnt use laptop drives.

You are obviously unaware of the new perpendicular recording drives
hitting the market.

That output times eight. You do the math, dipshit.
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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Nope, if the data is mirrored over multiple systems,
doesnt matter a damn how one of the systems dies,
the data is still safe on the one that hasnt died.

How can a soldier in the field mirror data to another machine, you
retarded ****?

My array is the most reliable platform for them. You can eat shit,
you inexperienced twit.
Not so with any raid system where a death can render the data fucked.
You stupidity is what has rendered your opinions on the subject
"fucked".
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
You're an idiot.
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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You're a terminal pig ignorant fuckwit.


Wrong, as always.



Pathetic, really.


Nothing even remotely resembling anything like
your pig ignorant drivel about 'factory burn in labs'
What? Do you think they just turn them on for three minutes and
call them "ready"?

You have no clue, chump. You are a PC assembly twit, at best.
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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They may have been (though I have my doubts), but that doesn't take
account of any damage that may have occurred while the drive makes its
way from China, through the channel to the end-user.

That's total bullshit due to the specs of the drive. When not under
power, they typically can handle 250 plus G shocks, and the way they
are packaged and shipped, no such shock is even possible to impart on
a drive without damaging the packaging. Hence, if the packaging is in
proper order, the drive inside is as well. They can even typically
survive 60G shocks when in operation.

Try again. In fact, **** that... YOU LOSE! Hands down!
That's why a wise
user will burn the drive in again himself if he wants to make sure it's
okay.

A wise user will install a drive and start using it.

A wise user will back up his or her data.

A stupid user will inordinately exercise a piece of equipment when
it is not even necessary, further reducing its overall "in use"
lifespan, and wasting a lot of personal time.
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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I always find it interesting to watch folks that would claim to be
intelligent jumping on the "stupid, immature twit" bandwagon on a
whim.

You guys fit that mold perfectly.
 
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Phat Bytestard

Jan 1, 1970
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Troll with malfunctioning synapse.

Top posting Usenet twit with less than nothing to say.

Hell, one cannot even determine whom you were referring to. More
proof that top posting is utterly retarded.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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You are obviously unaware of the new perpendicular
recording drives hitting the market.

Odd, bit hard to explain how I have actually commented
on them if I was actually unaware of them, child.

And those STILL dont have as good a thruput as 3.5" drives, child.
That output times eight. You do the math, dipshit.

Pity there is more involved than that, child.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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How can a soldier in the field mirror data to another machine,

Over the comms link that he's useless without, child.
My array is the most reliable platform for them.

Nope. And they dont need that volume of data storage anyway.

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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You're an idiot.

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, child.

Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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That's total bullshit due to the specs of the drive. When not under
power, they typically can handle 250 plus G shocks, and the way
they are packaged and shipped, no such shock is even possible to
impart on a drive without damaging the packaging. Hence, if the
packaging is in proper order, the drive inside is as well. They
can even typically survive 60G shocks when in operation.

Pity about what happens between the pallet load and the end user.
Try again. In fact, **** that... YOU LOSE! Hands down!

Pathetic, really.
A wise user will install a drive and start using it.
A wise user will back up his or her data.

You did manage to get that bit right.
A stupid user will inordinately exercise a piece of equipment when
it is not even necessary, further reducing its overall "in use"
lifespan, and wasting a lot of personal time.

And made a VERY spectacular fool of yourself again with that bit.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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You deaf, child ?
Do you think they just turn them on for three minutes and call them "ready"?

Yep, thats what happens with mass market commodity drives, child.

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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Osiris wrote
So you are educated by Wikipedia !

Nope I just use it to rub the noses of the pig ignorant in thanks.
read this from Wiki (your URL):
"When possible, it is better to eliminate the root
cause of early failures than doing a burn in."

Irrelevant to his pig ignorant claim about
ELEVATED TEMPERATURES and burn in tests.
Yes.... remove the last wagon from the train, as it is
always the one that is most damaged in an accident.

Irrelevant to his pig ignorant claim about
ELEVATED TEMPERATURES and burn in tests.
Of course the solution is the very best, if the value-component
in the decision is limited to preventing damage, but... well...
the factual component should get some consideration too.

Irrelevant to his pig ignorant claim about
ELEVATED TEMPERATURES and burn in tests.
 
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Folkert Rienstra

Jan 1, 1970
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Pity it aint what was being discussed.

Yes it was Roddli.
No point in writechecking the drive for a short period if it had been
thouroughly exercised already.
Depends on what the exerciser did.

Read at a minimum and possibly also write, what else.
You presumably meant would not.

Nope, meant exactly what I said. The writechecking helps prevent
the drives from showing bad sectors and thus from early returns
by people who do not know what the significance of that is.

Bad sectors do not necessarily make a dying drive.
 
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