Elektor Electronics new website

[HomeLab]

I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

 

[MikeMandaville]

I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

Excellent. Lots of good reading here.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Excellent. Lots of good reading here.

At a steep price. First article I viewed, arbitrary choice, 'LED
bedside lamp', gave me a list of components and a link to the
(presumably full) PDF, for 1.00UKP (1.85USD)

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

At a steep price. First article I viewed, arbitrary choice, 'LED
bedside lamp', gave me a list of components and a link to the
(presumably full) PDF, for 1.00UKP (1.85USD)

Silicon Chip wants GBP 3.71 (about USD 7.00) to access one issue
online. I got a whole year of Circuit Cellar (PDFs delivered by
e-mail) for not much more than that.

Elektor wants (free) registration and agreement to get their
newsletter just to read news. Maybe someone will add their log-in to
bugmenot.com?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\]

Silicon Chip wants GBP 3.71 (about USD 7.00) to access one issue
online. I got a whole year of Circuit Cellar (PDFs delivered by
e-mail) for not much more than that.

Elektor wants (free) registration and agreement to get their
newsletter just to read news. Maybe someone will add their log-in to
bugmenot.com?

Why don't you add it? Something like username Bugmenot with PW of
bugmenot.

Me? I had a yr's subscription to Elektor USA and I didn't like the mag.
I'm glad it went tits up.

 

[Frank Bemelman]

Why don't you add it? Something like username Bugmenot with PW of
bugmenot.

Log in with user bugmenot42, password bugmenot42. It works.

 

[Eric]

I think it is one of the best magazines,







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Silicon Chip wants GBP 3.71 (about USD 7.00) to access one issue
online. I got a whole year of Circuit Cellar (PDFs delivered by
e-mail) for not much more than that.

Elektor wants (free) registration and agreement to get their
newsletter just to read news. Maybe someone will add their log-in to
bugmenot.com?

Why don't you add it? Something like username Bugmenot with PW of
bugmenot.

Me? I had a yr's subscription to Elektor USA and I didn't like the mag.
I'm glad it went tits up.

 

[HomeLab]

Why don't you add it? Something like username Bugmenot with PW of
bugmenot.

Me? I had a yr's subscription to Elektor USA and I didn't like the mag.
I'm glad it went tits up.

That happened 12 (!) years ago, and in the US only. UK and other
European readers seem to think differently as the mag is still around.

Rich (UK)

 

[Wouter van Ooijen]

Me? I had a yr's subscription to Elektor USA and I didn't like the mag.

That happened 12 (!) years ago, and in the US only. UK and other
European readers seem to think differently as the mag is still around.

I am from the country Elektor/Elektuur originates from (Netherlands).
I must agree with both viewpoints. 40y ago Elektor was a very good
magazine, but it has lost most ofd its quality. But it is still one of
the few relatively good magazines left. Which says a lot about what is
available these days


Wouter van Ooijen

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Webshop for PICs and other electronics
http://www.voti.nl/hvu
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[Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\]

That happened 12 (!) years ago, and in the US only. UK and other
European readers seem to think differently as the mag is still around.

Yeah, that was my big complaint: it was too European.

Good riddance.

 

[Kryten]

Yeah, that was my big complaint: it was too European.

In what way?

There is the mains voltage difference, but most projects are low voltage.

Teletext and SCART are less common in the USA, but such projects are not
frequent.

 

[Paul Burke]

"Watson A.Name -

In what way?

I suspect he means an insufficency of foaming nutcases.

Paul Burke

 

[Kryten]

I suspect he means an insufficiency of foaming nutcases.

I hadn't noticed any in Circuit Cellar etc.

On the other hand, I am fed up of Ivor Catt and the like who pad out
Electronics World with cods wallop.

 

[HomeLab]

I hadn't noticed any in Circuit Cellar etc.

On the other hand, I am fed up of Ivor Catt and the like who pad out
Electronics World with cods wallop.

No Ivor Catt, pages of old f%$rt letters or Dickensian-style writers
in Elektor. Have a look at the QuizzAway pages in EE for some up to
date thought stimulation.

Rich

 

[Kryten]

No Ivor Catt, pages of old f%$rt letters or Dickensian-style writers
in Elektor. Have a look at the QuizzAway pages in EE for some up to
date thought stimulation.

I spoke to the editor of EW today, about the possibility of writing some
articles.

I ventured my opinions about how the content had declined from stuff people
could actually apply (radio and audio amplifier circuits) to tenuous
abstract blather. The death of J.L. Hood probably killed off a lot of the
audio engineer readership. Last time I looked there was some lengthy article
about magnetoaetheric tunnels and I just thought "what on earth is this
mumbo jumbo about, and who the heck would pay to read this?"

If asked "Are you going to take out a subscription?"
I'd say "No, I'll read it at the library for what little relevant stuff it
has"

The editor (Svetlana Josifovska) asked me if I'd read it recently, because
it has changed since she took over around Christmas. She is from an
engineering background, so she prefers to read about practical engineering
too.

I get the feeling she doesn't think much of the scribblings of Catt et al,
so hopefully we'll be seeing a lot less of them. I'd prefer none at all! ;-)

I think we'll have to check it out on the news stands,
to see if it has become a bit meatier...

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Kryten <kryten_droid_obfusticator@

The editor (Svetlana Josifovska)

[of British 'Electronics World']

asked me if I'd read it recently,
because it has changed since she took over around Christmas. She is from
an engineering background, so she prefers to read about practical
engineering too.

Engineering background and a trained journalist, I believe. She is using
articles from other journalists rather than relying entirely on
practising or retired EEs. Nut content has been reduced to zero or
nearly so.

This will be OK IF the journalists don't take over entirely. So it's
important to keep up a supply of copy from EEs.

 

[Kryten]

Engineering background and a trained journalist, I believe. She is using
articles from other journalists rather than relying entirely on
practising or retired EEs. Nut content has been reduced to zero or
nearly so.

Thank f. for that.

This will be OK IF the journalists don't take over entirely.
So it's important to keep up a supply of copy from EEs.

I rang around quite a few magazines and the going rate seems between 80 to
100 UKP per page.

About a day's wages on average UK national salary of 24K?

I'd maybe write an article for the kudos or pocket money but I do know few
people can write a good technical article if a few hours. This concurs with
a post I read saying places pay very little for good technical copy. I guess
the writers are thus supporting the magazines in effect.

 

[Rick Fox]

I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

Elektor has stopped providing their PCB layouts as free .pdf
downloads. That means we have to go back to photocopying the layouts
from the magazine, like we did years ago, or buy the full .pdf article
(which Elektor says is the answer - even though we have already paid
for the magazine)

As a long term subscriber (1983) I am disgusted, and have told Elektor
so.

I will be canceling my subscription and stop buying the magazine if
they don't change their minds on this. That's how strongly I feel. I
will *not* take this huge backwards step in amateur PCB making.

Please, anyone else who feels the same about this, email them and
visit the 'non technical' forum on their new website.

Rick.

 

[Joel Kolstad]

I'd maybe write an article for the kudos or pocket money but I do know few
people can write a good technical article if a few hours. This concurs
with a post I read saying places pay very little for good technical copy.
I guess the writers are thus supporting the magazines in effect.

I think its devolved to the point where -- even with advertising --
technical magazines have small enough circulation that they can't afford to
pay writers for the actual time required to create a good article. Although
perhaps 'devolved' is the wrong term here -- what sort of rates did the
likes of Radio Electronics pay say, 20 years ago?

Although it's not quite the same thing, keep in mind that for 'professional'
journals (e.g., IEEE), it's still considered an honor to have a paper
accepted and the _author_ pays if they get too wordy (or want color photos)!

Linux is a great example of people doing things for free that one would
typically expect to be well paid for. Hopefully the same will continue to
apply to authors for electronics magazines.

---Joel Kolstad

 

[HomeLab]

Elektor has stopped providing their PCB layouts as free .pdf
downloads. That means we have to go back to photocopying the layouts
from the magazine, like we did years ago, or buy the full .pdf article
(which Elektor says is the answer - even though we have already paid
for the magazine)

As a long term subscriber (1983) I am disgusted, and have told Elektor
so.

I will be canceling my subscription and stop buying the magazine if
they don't change their minds on this. That's how strongly I feel. I
will *not* take this huge backwards step in amateur PCB making.

Please, anyone else who feels the same about this, email them and
visit the 'non technical' forum on their new website.

Rick.

well in the same forum the mag editor advises that they are working to
solve the problem so some patience may be in order. I've seen this
sort of swing before, usually the staff that do the actual work are
not to blame. I'll check again in a week's time.

Richard