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George Ghio
- Jan 1, 1970
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wmbjk said:depending > > on > > > what I am doing. The gen is used for: Chop saw,
Welder & TIG,
Grinders > > > (4), Lathe, Compound mitre saw, routers (2), Circular
saw, Bench
saw, > > > Jig saw, Belt sander, Orbital sander, Drill press, Washing
machine
and > > > Vacuume. All my small drills run off 12V. > If for example if
I am
the > > day. Go on have a guess.
I recall that you have at least two generators,
True
and have written about
various problems with them.
Not true.
I believe you mentioned a 10 kW one in the
last couple months.
Figment of your imagination.
It needs to be at least half of that if you do other
than hobby welding with it.
It would need to be more than 1/2 that.
Why do you keep mixing in tractors and
cement mixers
Because these are the things that are run on the 20 litres of fuel every
week.
rather than just saying the size, hp and hourly fuel
consumption?
Robin - ES - Cont 6.5kW - Max 8.5 kW. 7 litres fuel capacity. 1.75 L/hr
Do you have to put your boots on to go start it?
Do you work bare foot in the work shop?
I always work with my boots on.
As this gen is workshop it is never run for the house except for the
vac. your point is not a point at all.
Why are
you using one generator for shop tools and another for battery charging?
How many generators have you worn out/rebuilt during your off-grid
experience?
Because the battery charger I use does the job better and quicker than
an electric battery charger on the shop gen. With a lot less fuel.
Well lets see. Your's... Our other generator is a custom built 14 hp
OHV single cylinder Onan belt driving a scrap modified Delco car
alternator. Electric start with remote controls indoors.
Mine...5 HP Mitsubishi running a 50 Amp Bosch alt. run time 4 hours and
a bit per 4 litres. Seldom run this for more than3 hours. The 5 hp is
well oversized for the job. Not used much except during winter. Then
maybe once every couple of weeks depending on the weather.
Electric start and 14 HP with remote in the house for a gen that might
run an average of once every 2 months. You are a hopeless consumer.
Here, I'll lead by example... my AC generator is a Hobart 8kW
welder-generator. It's powered by a 16hp 2 cylinder opposed flat head
Onan with pressure lube and uses about 4 liters per hour fully loaded.
It's in the attached workshop, has exhaust routed outside, has electric
start and auto-idle. It weighs (hee hee hee) about 700 pounds and is on
wheels so that it can be rolled outside for jobs where the cables on the
other welders won't reach. I don't use it at all for home power anymore,
only for heavy welding or portable AC.
Our other generator is a custom built 14 hp OHV single cylinder Onan
belt driving a scrap modified Delco car alternator. Electric start with
remote controls indoors. Described in more detail here at the time I
built it. Photo from that post
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/images/genny.jpg 70 Amps DC at about 2/3
full RPM and part throttle. About 2 hours per gallon. Unused for months
at a time, occasionally used for an hour here or there, and very
occasionally used two days in a row for two or three hours per day.
There... now your turn weasel.
Then you must work primarily with wood, 'cause you ain't doin' much by
hand in steel.
Now this statement is good. Metal working was never undertaken until the
advent of machinery. Wayne has spoken.
I do a fair bit with both these days.
But how is it that you claim to be a craftsman but aren't
willing to show us the work on your own setup?
Have you ever looked. The site I use for pictures has had over 4000 hits
since I started it. I still add pictures and charts there.
Please express my condolences to your teacher.
runs?
<sigh> Fine... about 125 feet to each of the three arrays, #4 to each.
About 165' to the wind generators, #4 as well for the 1000 W, I've
forgotten the size for the little one. #2 between the backup genny and
the batteries. #14 for most of the AC stuff, various sizes for the rest
depending on length and load. Main panel supplies shop, garage, laundry,
master bedroom and subpanel, which supplies the balance. Now pull a Ghio
and claim that I called the electrician for the info...
Did you?
Because you're a loudmouthed horse's ass fond of criticizing others and
claiming to be an expert. Which means you should be proud to provide
details and photos of the Mr.Craftsman home. No one expects a connection
by connection slideshow, just a few shots to give us some idea whether
it's a mishmash or a show piece.
Well the house is coming along just fine. Thank you for asking. We have
laid close to 100 tons of stone and morter. The whole house has been
built by just me and the wife. Mind you the heart attack did slow me
down a bit. My house has also featured in the Owner Builder Magazine.
Proud of it? Yes. And will show it off when completed. It is a real work
of art. Even if it is still under construction.
The house does not require AC and heating is with a contraflow masonary
heater inside 100 tons of thermal mass.
The house runs on 1.2 - 1.5 kWh a day. It was designed to do this and so
the system was designed to supply this with 5 days autonomy. The house
is mostly 12 Volt. All lighting is 12 V. In fact the only things that
require the inverter is the computer, printer and the occasional cake
mixer. All the lights are QH or led. Almost all lights are placed for
working none of the lights exceed 10 Watts.
The ELV wiring starts with a 16 sq mm run from one side of the house to
the other. then 8 sq mm from end to end in three places reducing to 3
and 2 sq mm for all other runs depending on needs. Needless to say there
is almost no voltage drop within the house wiring.
Inverter Selectronics SE12 - 600 Watts cont. - 1/2 hour 800 Watts and 5
seconds surge 1500 Watts. 90% efficient max.
Batteries 840 Ah - Six 2V cells. Feeds to control box 36 sq mm cable.2
metres. DC rated.
Solar panels X8 - 80 watt BP mounted on a single axis rack.Feeds to
control box 16 sqmm cable. 4 metres. DC rated.
Reg - Plasmatronics PL40 40A Digital with data logging and shunt + PLS
for total logging of in and out + battery charging in.
Water is pumped with a Flowjet 12V pump to header tank, push button
start on latching relay and shuts off on pressure switch. Circuit at:
<http://community.webshots.com/album/30870272VAADMEwbqw>
see Solar 2
George