Stupid Human tricks

[Bob Worthy]

I use to do it...then they will ask you to provide a stamp as well..

Jim Rojas

We use the stamp machine and the Post Office don't like it when the date is
to far off. I am not stamping 500-600 (depending on the month because we
bill quarterly) to send them and another 500-600 to get them back. Down
here, you are right, they would definately want stamps. I feel rather
fortunate that I have gotten away without envelopes for so many years.

 

[Bob Worthy]

You suffering from IPSS? Impact Printer Separation Syndrome. Do you need a
good support group? Hang in there man...you'll make it through.

Do you have the "GEEK SQUAD" out there? They are run all over down here with
their little VW's.


|
|
| Jim Rojas wrote:
| > I use double window envelopes I buy from Walmart.
| >
| > Jim Rojas
| >
| >
|
|
| Don't know how much the prices would vary from area to area but I'm
| paying $36.00/$38.00 per 500 from Staples. Office Max is about the
| same. In the past, I've looked on line and with shipping, even from the
| discount houses, it all winds up just a few dollars different. Haven't
| checked on line lately or Walmarts either. I just think they're going
| to remain at that price until someone comes out with a more convenient
| method to lable envelopes and co-ordinate it with the contents.
|
| I started out with lables, when I first started. Something always got
| screwed up with a mailing or trying to print just a few lables because
| some got screwed up or something.
|
| The all-enclosed invoice with the tractor fed paper was pretty costly
| also but it sure was convenient. But now you can't get a tractor feed
| impact printer, that'll print clearly through all the copies
| anymore..... for a reasonable price... that is. I had a Toshiba pin
| printer that I think would have printed through a piece of cardboard.
| Printer cost $2000.00 back in the 80's. It was 130 column wide. Just
| threw it out about a year or so ago. No one had parts to repair the
| print head, anymore. In all that time, the only thing to fail on it was
| the print head ...... once in the 90's. By the time it went again, they
| didn't make parts for it anymore. Thing weighed about 40 pounds.
| Shoulda bought a spare print head for it, I guess.
|
| Anyway, the all enclosed invoice got too expensive, so that's when I
| went to ink jet, which didn't work for me. Then back to the impact
| printer with double window envelopes. Now, laser with double window
| envelopes........ which is more expensive than the impact printer what
| with toner supplies, paper and all. Impact printer had real inexpensive
| ribbon and inexpensive tractor feed paper.
|
| I put it out on top of the garbage can by the curb for pick up and
| couldn't keep my self from watching them "just throw it in the back of
| their damn ol truck, like a piece of garbage" "Sniff sniff" I though
| maybe they'd just sort of, kind of ... ya know ... "place" it .......
| Ya know what I mean? But they just THREW IT! "Sniff" Every once in a
| while, I come across an old ribbon cartridge or a piece of the edging
| from the tractor feed paper an ...... an ..... SNIFF ......
|
| OHHHHH God! I'LL JUST NEVER FORGIVE THEM!
|
| ....JUST LEAVE ME ALONE .......I DONT WANNA TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE!
| LEAVE ME ALONE ... I SAID ...... DON'T, DON'T ........ JUST LEAVE ME
| BE....
|
| I .. I'LL BE ALRIGHT IN A LITTLE WHILE. SNIFFFFFFFF!
|

 

[alarman]

I use those as well. Have you seen a problem with returned mail because the
Post Office scanning machine is not picking up the right zip code. It seems
that I get some back and the PO bar code on the bottom of the envelope has
my zip code rather than the zip code for the customer. The PO told me that
the scanner looks at the last line. I noticed that if the invoice isn't
folded exactly, sometimes the ATTN: line will appear in the window. The PO
manager told me that was the problem so it is picking up my zip or is that a
line of crap? I am using the double window, one over the other.

I have had a few returned by the PO, but not because of the last line. I put
the attention line, if any, on the second line. I think the PO just screws
up now and again. I do have to fold my invoices carefully though, so the
addressee is visible even if the invoice moves a little inside the envelope.
js

 

[Bob Worthy]

Yah...I send out small #6 3/4 return envelopes...no stamp...and their small
and cheep.

We have a few whiners that want the return envelopes. It does speed up
payment from people that still send their own checks...but lately been
getting lots of bill-pay. Freeked me out the other day I got 4 clients
checks all in one bill-pay envelope...now I gotta really pay attention!

It is definiatly on the rise, it's ok but sometimes they leave out the
customer number which accounting is geared to use. Then they got to look up
by name, address etc. The other thing is late fees. They don't pick them up
sometimes. No biggy but then it shows a balance on the account.

 

[alarman]

We use the stamp machine and the Post Office don't like it when the date is
to far off. I am not stamping 500-600 (depending on the month because we
bill quarterly) to send them and another 500-600 to get them back. Down
here, you are right, they would definately want stamps. I feel rather
fortunate that I have gotten away without envelopes for so many years.

What's with the cheapskates down there? I have never had anyone ask me to
provide a stamp for the return envelope.
js

 

[Bob Worthy]

anything.

I'm using these guys:
http://www.formsdirect.com/

I use the #949 2-window envelope, and the #E-R6 return, which has a
detachable flap for my customers to write-in call list changes and comments.
js

They may have just sent me a sample, at least something similar. I think was
actually geared for the security industry. Is that the one?

 

[alarman]

They may have just sent me a sample, at least something similar. I think was
actually geared for the security industry. Is that the one?

Probably, they're out of Colorado I think.
js

 

[Bob Worthy]

I have had a few returned by the PO, but not because of the last line. I put
the attention line, if any, on the second line.

I'll have them change that to see if it helps. I notice the returns coming
from two areas frequently. One local city here and then from Texas.

I think the PO just screws

up now and again.

Government workers but you're afraid to say anything or they'll go "Postal"
on you.


I do have to fold my invoices carefully though, so the

addressee is visible even if the invoice moves a little inside the envelope.
js

I believe the ones we use are the Columbia C065's, if that means anything to
you. We are using Probill for invoicing and the fold is pretty straight
away. They fit the windows fine.

 

[Bob Worthy]

What's with the cheapskates down there? I have never had anyone ask me to
provide a stamp for the return envelope.
js

You would have to live here or in New York to understand.......old retiree's
you know....

 

[alarman]

You would have to live here or in New York to understand.......old retiree's
you know....

Ah. Geezerville, eh?
js

 

[Bob Worthy]

Ah. Geezerville, eh?
js

When you are nearing retirement and they are still calling you "Sonny", you
wonder about the miracles of modern medicine. And with that I am going
home...long days and old age ya know. Thanks for the input.

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Yah...I love their v-dubs...great marketing scheme!


|
| | You suffering from IPSS? Impact Printer Separation Syndrome. Do you need a
| good support group? Hang in there man...you'll make it through.
|
| Do you have the "GEEK SQUAD" out there? They are run all over down here with
| their little VW's.
|
|
| | |
| |
| | Jim Rojas wrote:
| | > I use double window envelopes I buy from Walmart.
| | >
| | > Jim Rojas
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
| | Don't know how much the prices would vary from area to area but I'm
| | paying $36.00/$38.00 per 500 from Staples. Office Max is about the
| | same. In the past, I've looked on line and with shipping, even from the
| | discount houses, it all winds up just a few dollars different. Haven't
| | checked on line lately or Walmarts either. I just think they're going
| | to remain at that price until someone comes out with a more convenient
| | method to lable envelopes and co-ordinate it with the contents.
| |
| | I started out with lables, when I first started. Something always got
| | screwed up with a mailing or trying to print just a few lables because
| | some got screwed up or something.
| |
| | The all-enclosed invoice with the tractor fed paper was pretty costly
| | also but it sure was convenient. But now you can't get a tractor feed
| | impact printer, that'll print clearly through all the copies
| | anymore..... for a reasonable price... that is. I had a Toshiba pin
| | printer that I think would have printed through a piece of cardboard.
| | Printer cost $2000.00 back in the 80's. It was 130 column wide. Just
| | threw it out about a year or so ago. No one had parts to repair the
| | print head, anymore. In all that time, the only thing to fail on it was
| | the print head ...... once in the 90's. By the time it went again, they
| | didn't make parts for it anymore. Thing weighed about 40 pounds.
| | Shoulda bought a spare print head for it, I guess.
| |
| | Anyway, the all enclosed invoice got too expensive, so that's when I
| | went to ink jet, which didn't work for me. Then back to the impact
| | printer with double window envelopes. Now, laser with double window
| | envelopes........ which is more expensive than the impact printer what
| | with toner supplies, paper and all. Impact printer had real inexpensive
| | ribbon and inexpensive tractor feed paper.
| |
| | I put it out on top of the garbage can by the curb for pick up and
| | couldn't keep my self from watching them "just throw it in the back of
| | their damn ol truck, like a piece of garbage" "Sniff sniff" I though
| | maybe they'd just sort of, kind of ... ya know ... "place" it ........
| | Ya know what I mean? But they just THREW IT! "Sniff" Every once in a
| | while, I come across an old ribbon cartridge or a piece of the edging
| | from the tractor feed paper an ...... an ..... SNIFF ......
| |
| | OHHHHH God! I'LL JUST NEVER FORGIVE THEM!
| |
| | ....JUST LEAVE ME ALONE .......I DONT WANNA TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE!
| | LEAVE ME ALONE ... I SAID ...... DON'T, DON'T ........ JUST LEAVE ME
| | BE....
| |
| | I .. I'LL BE ALRIGHT IN A LITTLE WHILE. SNIFFFFFFFF!
| |
|
|

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Just bill the late fees separately...it's a pain though.

In the early days of bill-pay i'd gotten some with the client's name!...that drove me bonkers trying to figure out who had paid what.

I had even THROWN some out thinking they were solicitations for credit cards...yep...stupid me.


|
| | Yah...I send out small #6 3/4 return envelopes...no stamp...and their small
| and cheep.
|
| We have a few whiners that want the return envelopes. It does speed up
| payment from people that still send their own checks...but lately been
| getting lots of bill-pay. Freeked me out the other day I got 4 clients
| checks all in one bill-pay envelope...now I gotta really pay attention!
|
| It is definiatly on the rise, it's ok but sometimes they leave out the
| customer number which accounting is geared to use. Then they got to look up
| by name, address etc. The other thing is late fees. They don't pick them up
| sometimes. No biggy but then it shows a balance on the account.
|
|
|
|

 

[Jim]

Is anyone sending out addressed return envelopes with their billing? I have
request from customers but am wondering what others are doing, if anything.

Used to ......... but not anymore.

 

[Jim]

Box of 80 double window envelopes is under $4 at Wallymart.

Hmmm, I'll have to take a look to see what Walmart charges up here.

 

[Jim]

You suffering from IPSS? Impact Printer Separation Syndrome. Do you need a good support group? Hang in there man...you'll make it through.

Th-Th- Thanks Crash.

Sometimes when I'm going through some old files and I find one of those
cute little paper edges with the precious little holes I I I
just .......

It's been over a year now .....But .......... I'm being real strong
about it.

 

[Jim Rojas]

I use AMPAD # 74023 from Wallymart.

Size: 8 7/8 x 3 7/8

Jim Rojas

 

[Crash Gordon®]

I use Globe-Weis 266759... 19 bucks for 500


| I use AMPAD # 74023 from Wallymart.
|
| Size: 8 7/8 x 3 7/8
|
| Jim Rojas
|
|
| | >
| >
| > Jim Rojas wrote:
| >> Box of 80 double window envelopes is under $4 at Wallymart.
| >>
| >
| > Hmmm, I'll have to take a look to see what Walmart charges up here.
| >
|
|

 

[Jim Rojas]

What size is your envelope?

Jim Rojas

I use Globe-Weis 266759... 19 bucks for 500


| I use AMPAD # 74023 from Wallymart.
|
| Size: 8 7/8 x 3 7/8
|
| Jim Rojas
|
|
| | >
| >
| > Jim Rojas wrote:
| >> Box of 80 double window envelopes is under $4 at Wallymart.
| >>
| >
| > Hmmm, I'll have to take a look to see what Walmart charges up here.
| >
|
|

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Hang in there man, if you need someone to talk to call your sponsor right now...you'll be ok...we've all been there...we'll maybe not Paulie

You suffering from IPSS? Impact Printer Separation Syndrome. Do you need a good support group? Hang in there man...you'll make it through.

Th-Th- Thanks Crash.

Sometimes when I'm going through some old files and I find one of those
cute little paper edges with the precious little holes I I I
just .......

It's been over a year now .....But .......... I'm being real strong
about it.