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Harry

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello,

Many years ago, before "High-Speed Internet", when
"Internet" was still called Information Highway, when i
had a "Web TV"for going onto the Internet, there was
something "live"on the TV (that was what we used for our
"monitor" ) we could view of "live" scenes. The one scene
i remember was of a swimming pool area. We had no
cable; no DSL; only the Web TV box and electricity. The
thing putting the scene on the Internet was probably a
"Camcorder", but i donot remember what "they" called it.

Now iam installing video surveillance from a commercial Co.
and theyare telling me, in order to view the scenes on
Internet, i need DSL. The pictures on my tv, of my outside
surroundings, are in little boxes called "CAM1; CAM2;
CAM3 and CAM4, so i guess this is a "cam" system. How
come i cannot get the pictures on the Internet with dial up,
only with DSL, even though, many years ago, before DSL,
iwas able to get someone's swimming pool surveillance?

Or does someone know of a way to do this without DSL.
My IP gave me a static IP address. What is that, and how
do you use it?

Truly
 
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Michael Black

Jan 1, 1970
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Harry said:
Why are you posting this to a newsgroup about the repair of electronic
equipment?

That's a far more puzzling question than whatever it is you are asking.

Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy before
you continue to post off-topic here:
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt

Note there are oddles of computer related and consumer related and likely
even internet related questions where you can ask this sort of question.

Michael
 
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Meat Plow

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello,

Many years ago, before "High-Speed Internet", when
"Internet" was still called Information Highway, when i
had a "Web TV"for going onto the Internet, there was
something "live"on the TV (that was what we used for our
"monitor" ) we could view of "live" scenes. The one scene
i remember was of a swimming pool area. We had no
cable; no DSL; only the Web TV box and electricity. The
thing putting the scene on the Internet was probably a
"Camcorder", but i donot remember what "they" called it.

Now iam installing video surveillance from a commercial Co.
and theyare telling me, in order to view the scenes on
Internet, i need DSL. The pictures on my tv, of my outside
surroundings, are in little boxes called "CAM1; CAM2;
CAM3 and CAM4, so i guess this is a "cam" system. How
come i cannot get the pictures on the Internet with dial up,
only with DSL, even though, many years ago, before DSL,
iwas able to get someone's swimming pool surveillance?

Or does someone know of a way to do this without DSL.
My IP gave me a static IP address. What is that, and how
do you use it?

Need more bandwidth for video than dialup can handle if in fact
that's what you'll be viewing. Also if the pics are color they will
be larger and have more detail. Just giving you and educated guess here.
 
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HapticZ

Jan 1, 1970
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u can do it with dialup, but the frame rate will be low, say 2 to 4 frames
per second. the amount of data to transfer must be compressed greatly to
move across a dialup connection so the video is crappy

anyway, even slow band DSL at 112k is as cheap as crummy 28.8 dialup now a
days!

them thars' some fierce competition goimg on with those internet providers
my friend! shop around!!
 
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Harry

Jan 1, 1970
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u can do it with dialup, but the frame rate will be low, say 2 to 4 frames
per second. the amount of data to transfer must be compressed greatly to
move across a dialup connection so the video is crappy

anyway, even slow band DSL at 112k is as cheap as crummy 28.8 dialup now a
days!

them thars' some fierce competition goimg on with those internet providers
my friend! shop around!!










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Hello,

Where i live (in Amish territory) there is nothing; not even cell
phone. I had to put in my own electricity etc. even . . . and thank
G^d for Dish, which works sometimes, but very little local.

Truly
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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Harry said:
Hello,

Many years ago, before "High-Speed Internet", when
"Internet" was still called Information Highway, when i
had a "Web TV"for going onto the Internet, there was
something "live"on the TV (that was what we used for our
"monitor" ) we could view of "live" scenes. The one scene
i remember was of a swimming pool area. We had no
cable; no DSL; only the Web TV box and electricity. The
thing putting the scene on the Internet was probably a
"Camcorder", but i donot remember what "they" called it.

Now iam installing video surveillance from a commercial Co.
and theyare telling me, in order to view the scenes on
Internet, i need DSL. The pictures on my tv, of my outside
surroundings, are in little boxes called "CAM1; CAM2;
CAM3 and CAM4, so i guess this is a "cam" system. How
come i cannot get the pictures on the Internet with dial up,
only with DSL, even though, many years ago, before DSL,
iwas able to get someone's swimming pool surveillance?

Or does someone know of a way to do this without DSL.
My IP gave me a static IP address. What is that, and how
do you use it?

Truly
you need DSL for speed., you need to be connected at all times.
and the static IP is your address that never changes and thus you
can be found from a look up server. Using Dial, your IP (address) is
not always the same, most of the time it's different.
 
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Puckdropper

Jan 1, 1970
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*snip*
you need DSL for speed., you need to be connected at all times.
and the static IP is your address that never changes and thus you
can be found from a look up server. Using Dial, your IP (address) is
not always the same, most of the time it's different.

You can't be guaranteed a static IP (unless you pay extra for it.) Most
DSL providers don't go about changing IP addresses until you disconnect
(by turning off the DSL modem), but it's possible your IP address will
change.

That's why services such as dyndns exist.

Puckdropper
 
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HapticZ

Jan 1, 1970
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then u are stuck! however u may be able to find a Ham radio fellow who could
get u started with a packet link across the various ham radio bands.
there are lots of options and concessions to be made.

cell links can be prohibitively expensive for broadband use, such as video
serving.

however, u may be the first to offer your neighbors the "opportunity" to
enrich thier worldly influence to startup a local ISP server. figure
$10,000 for equipment and a satelite link and u may start selling net
service to the entire region. ;-))
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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then u are stuck! however u may be able to find a Ham radio fellow who could
get u started with a packet link across the various ham radio bands.
there are lots of options and concessions to be made.

Putting commercial traffic through ham radio is a federal offence. Don't
try it. The ham will lose his license
 
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bz

Jan 1, 1970
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then u are stuck! however u may be able to find a Ham radio fellow who
could get u started with a packet link across the various ham radio
bands.
there are lots of options and concessions to be made.

cell links can be prohibitively expensive for broadband use, such as
video serving.

however, u may be the first to offer your neighbors the "opportunity" to
enrich thier worldly influence to startup a local ISP server. figure
$10,000 for equipment and a satelite link and u may start selling net
service to the entire region. ;-))

Links via amateur radio may NOT be used for any kind of business
transactions.

They require a LICENSED operator in control at all times.

There may NOT be any charges for transmitting messages via amateur radio.





--
bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

[email protected] remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
 
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HapticZ

Jan 1, 1970
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dont tell me NO hams are using any band for moving email and like across
them!

comercially, yes it is prohibited, but linking private communications not
originating form direct net service?

its not all dots/dashes anymore. subcued modulations have been used to xmit
more then just casual blab!
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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dont tell me NO hams are using any band for moving email and like across
them!

Sure they are, but so what? What you propose is Federally, illegal.
comercially, yes it is prohibited, but linking private communications not
originating form direct net service?

See above.
its not all dots/dashes anymore. subcued modulations have been used to xmit
more then just casual blab!

And your point is, what? It hasn't been all dots and dashes for over 100
years.
 
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