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bobgalle

Jan 1, 1970
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hai guys i am trying to create my own robot but before that i would
like to know the intense relation of artificial intelligence with
electronics and particularly mobile technologies like j2me,cdma,etc,.
if anyone wants to say something regarding artificial intelligence or
tronics are free to post here.
if you are engineering students feel free to say about the rcent
develpoments in artificial intelligence.
 
bobgalle said:
hai guys i am trying to create my own robot but before that i would
like to know the intense relation of artificial intelligence with
electronics and particularly mobile technologies like j2me,cdma,etc,.
if anyone wants to say something regarding artificial intelligence or
electronics are free to post here.
if you are engineering students feel free to say about the rcent
develpoments in artificial intelligence.

Articial intelligence is an oxymoron. You should concentrate on more
specific subjects, like image analysis and data fusion.
 
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Mark Fergerson

Jan 1, 1970
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bobgalle said:
hai guys i am trying to create my own robot but before that i would
like to know the intense relation of artificial intelligence with
electronics and particularly mobile technologies like j2me,cdma,etc,.
if anyone wants to say something regarding artificial intelligence or
tronics are free to post here.
if you are engineering students feel free to say about the rcent
develpoments in artificial intelligence.

I think most AI researchers are going about it wrong. Biological
intelligence strikes me as emergent; the cumulative effect of
independent modules running in the brain (and to a lesser degree
ganglia) in multiply connected feedback loops. Each module processes
data sets in a deterministic manner, but the "free will" interpretation
of intelligence emerges from the aggregate I think because of attractors
in the setpoint interactions between all the overlapping feedback loops.


Mark L. Fergerson
 
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engineer

Jan 1, 1970
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If you take artifical intelligence classes, you will find the concepts
somewhat simple and boring, but the mathematical notions and
programming concepts are useful.

''Machine learning'' is similar to AI in some vague, general way, and
could be useful in making a robot.

"Machine vision" is another area that could make your project
impressive in function.

Don't be put off by any curmudgeons... go for it !

Geoff
 
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John Jardine.

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark Fergerson said:
I think most AI researchers are going about it wrong. Biological
intelligence strikes me as emergent; the cumulative effect of
independent modules running in the brain (and to a lesser degree
ganglia) in multiply connected feedback loops. Each module processes
data sets in a deterministic manner, but the "free will" interpretation
of intelligence emerges from the aggregate I think because of attractors
in the setpoint interactions between all the overlapping feedback loops.


Mark L. Fergerson
Amen. I think that as well!.
john
 
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:-)

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark said:
I think most AI researchers are going about it wrong. Biological
intelligence strikes me as emergent; the cumulative effect of
independent modules running in the brain (and to a lesser degree
ganglia) in multiply connected feedback loops. Each module processes
data sets in a deterministic manner, but the "free will" interpretation
of intelligence emerges from the aggregate I think because of attractors
in the setpoint interactions between all the overlapping feedback loops.


Mark L. Fergerson


Read the Society of Mind,
Marvin Minsky MIT

:)
 
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Ian Bell

Jan 1, 1970
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bobgalle said:
hai guys i am trying to create my own robot but before that i would
like to know the intense relation of artificial intelligence with
electronics and particularly mobile technologies like j2me,cdma,etc,.
if anyone wants to say something regarding artificial intelligence or
tronics are free to post here.
if you are engineering students feel free to say about the rcent
develpoments in artificial intelligence.

Genetic algorithms are they way to go on a microcontroller.

Ian
 
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Rich The Philosophizer

Jan 1, 1970
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I agree.


But with a quantum random component.

OK, here I'll beg to differ with you, Kevin.

You say "quantum random", I say "Free Will." I further claim that my
assertion is verifiable, but only if you acknowledge the existence of
Free Will.

Yeah, I know, it's kinda like saying, "I can prove that you'll survive
jumping off of this cliff, as soon as you jump off the cliff." ;-)

But what do you have to lose by reading and thinking about your
prejudgements, if there would be a different way of looking at Reality?

And really, Kevin, what meme has you in such a death grip that you'd
rather die than see that it's lying to you?
 
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Rich The Philosophizer

Jan 1, 1970
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Kevin Aylward wrote:

Whoops! Where IYNSHO does this "quantum random component" enter into
it, exactly?



Well, you introduced the "quantum random component".

Besides, was the way our last conversation terminated too Zen for you?

If you don't recall, you helped me prove that your assertion that one
cannot change one's mind was false (via Godel), and you responded
(roughly) "OK, but just try to change your mind, you can't". I
demonstrated that I could do so by deciding you were not even interested
in being proved wrong _even after you helped me do so_, and then quit
the conversation.

Free Will is the very foundation of the Universe as we know it, plus all
the rest. ;-)

Here's a quote right from the front page:
"Above all, you have free will. It is my desire that you and only you
choose who you will be and what you will do. I hope you choose to be my
host here on Earth. I hope you allow my presence within you to express
through you. And I hope you and I will work together collaboratively to
bring the healing that your deepest Self and the Earth have been calling
for."
-- http://www.godchannel.com/

And, once you acknowledge your own Free Will, you can start healing her.
Or, more accurately, provide a channel for healing light while she heals
herself. ;-)

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Mark Fergerson

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark said:
...was the way our last conversation terminated too Zen for you?

If you don't recall, you helped me prove that your assertion that one
cannot change one's mind was false (via Godel), and you responded
(roughly) "OK, but just try to change your mind, you can't". I
demonstrated that I could do so by deciding you were not even interested
in being proved wrong _even after you helped me do so_, and then quit
the conversation.

Oh, dear.

I'd like to offer my sincere apologies, Kevin. You don't remember
that conversation because I had it with Steve Walz.


Mark L. Fergerson
 
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John Jardine.

Jan 1, 1970
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[clip useful dialogue]
Kevin Aylward
[email protected]
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

Anyways, some idle conjecture ...
[1] A few months ago I was somewhat annoyed to realize that "I" exist as no
more than a kind of interlinked collection of general purpose 'graphic'
style primitives. Earliest memories through to those of a few seconds ago
being regenerated on command and (critically), 'on the fly' from an assembly
of stored, linked, universal piece parts and coloured in with some artful
general purpose 'textures' who's sole purpose is to cheaply flesh out my
mental image by adding a convincing taste of reality. (The games proggers
will know exactly what I mean).
Essentially 'I' is just heavily (lossily) compressed collections of simple
data points. They're pretty static. Any interesting stuff will be linked in
at lower compression ratios and accumulate with time. The boring stuff gets
massive lossy compression hence 'forgotten' quickly.

[2] Last week I had fun playing with a plastic product casing that had been
formed 'from nothing' inside a tank of liquid resin. The resin hardens at
the precise point of contact of 2 scanned laser beams and an exceedingly
accurate, 3D component can be generated straight from a computer CAD
package.

So, if "me" is pretty much physically static in my head, (disregarding any
machine support stuff like vision, taste etc) it doesn't seem beyond reason
that "me" can be electrically copied micron^3 by micron^3, using some kind
of dual/quad electromagnetic scanning method.
A precise, sensitive, XYZ scan probe would be a hiqh quality, possibly
unsolvable, technical problem but a scan (working at the micron stepping
level) could generate valid results even on a subject laying/sitting there
(very patiently!) for a day or two.
Were only dealing with a GB or so of data points but the time consuming
element would be in the stimulus test and establishing of numerous 'linked
lists'.
We're all issued with one of these memory things, so it's quite easy to
look in, give it some work to do and try figure what these 'memories' may
really consist of.
I looked in mine and could see only bits of fluff :)
john
 
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